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dino.dinoOFFICIAL NOTICE ‘ From DDS.com Headquarters”
It’s well known that Dover Drag Strip closed because of the economic conditions and the political pressures of the mid seventies. It seems these issues still exist today. I talked before about the “hurdles” involved in putting on a 50th Anniversary Dover Gathering at the track site – and these hurdles are the old familiar economics and politics. After months of trying, it is just not economically or politically possible to stage such an event at the track site. Hundreds of phone calls to everything from State -town and County officials to “private” sector ,come up short…No Help – no response-no follow-up calls from most contacted….Local -regional or national potential “sponsors” to finaince such an undertaking ,are stretched to the max, budget wise. The site is completely void of all the infrastrucure to support the idea, from power- bathrooms- physical condition of property-traffic issues -Sky high insurance -security costs-clean-up -town issues …and all would have to trucked in or supplied. Not to mention the bucks to put it into usable condition for one day. To promote Two Events ,back to back, one week apart ,aimed at the same participants almost got to sound like a good idea….then you think about ,the fact that -Hey, It really isn’t smart to run the Dover Guys all over …with many hauling from as far as Florida.Then two weeks after the Drags…ther’es the 21st Reunion At Big Als. Sounds like Too Much for too many to handle. So………, I am going to put all my energies into the 3rd Annual Nostalgia Drags at The Valley. One event – two themes! How about two t-shirts ?
………………………….Sorry …I tried….But ,once we get past the 3rd annual Drags…”after the smoke clears” …I’ll have time to plan our next “attack” on the agenda. Lot of personal -business and even family items have had to be addressed ,as I change hats on an hourly basis. Will send a Mass E-mail regarding this to all the registered guys…and figure you all can get the word out to those not familiar with the forum ….Just one round lost…back to the pits and open up the hood.
babycakesDino,I know both you and Brian M.Have worked your ‘butts’ off,trying to get this off the ground,and believe me,I think I speak for ‘all’ ODF members,THANK YOU for all the tons of time and effort you guys had put into it! Yes,it is ‘very’ disappointing to us all,however,the way you explained it to us with all the ‘legal’ obstacles,not to mention the financial burden besides,it just wasn’t feasible,and both of you (and others that were involved),this is not the ‘end’,LOOK OUT Lebanon Valley for the “Dover’ 50th,it’ll go down in history!!!! Again Dino,I extend my THANK YOU for all the hard work you and others put into it.
tomblakeI agree with Babycakes, very disapointing but do understand. The first race started out with one day than went to two days. It seemed like we might get more time to get around to all the people we read about and have raced with from the passed with the 50th only a week from the race.
As far as all the effort, most of us will never know but thank you all for tring.
When it first came up it didn’t seem possible to make both events till the dates were changed to a week apart. And I think most if not all the Florida people were going to make both and that’s one of the reasons the cancellation is disapointing. The answer to most disappointments lately seems to be “Well that’s racing” and a Dover dragracer sure understands that.
See you all at the Valley.
tomatohead…….. well ,first there was the website 😀 and then there was the airport idea witch turned into the Dover Drags at Island Dragway for two years and now to a bigger track for a bigger race ❗ 😀 that we have now going into the 3rd event ❗ and hopefully that will be with us till the very end 😀 ❗ ….. I am sure I am not the only one who will miss the idea of having a car show at the old track but better luck next time 😀 … so thanks DINO for doin’ the race track deal at the Valley ❗ we will have that , looks like forever ❗ its ours and it looks like more then one track wants our race 😀 ………
realmongoThanks for trying Dino, it’s too bad your dream didn’t materialize.
dino“Thats Racing”…..they’ll be another round and another day.I’m a little “ticked” too. Remember some car had on it:
“Sometimes the Bear gets you…sometimes you get the Bear”.
richcorti
I’m kind of new here – been around DDS since early 60’s- & from what I’ve seen there’s NO LACK OF EFFORT on Dino’s & probably others part.
Thanks
dinoThanks Rich ….Oh Yeah…Dover Guys on The Move….Last week Roger & Pat had the their cars on display in Duchess…today Paul B. parked the Willys at Foxwoods and Ran it last week at Cecil County.
gaspumpchasSorry this didn’t happen for the 50th—-Dino lets get together and hammer out the issues, wanna have another run at it?? Sure would like to compare notes……..Let me know…..I’m close by and could do some legwork….Cheers
Charlie Hulsizer
dinoI’m getting with some NEW people- ‘after Nov. elections” ,if that gives you an idea of things….going back to my drawing board and and might have a completely differant twist for something at the old track location. Duchess County head cheese retiring.You vets might understand new battle plan.
dover1320
We must have something offical at the track site and Bring the Boys Home ! Brian.
dinoyup…first thing I already got Approval for- is a “HIstorical” marker WE provide…. Need ‘someone” with Heavy equipment ,to place Large Boulder ? at entrance to affix Plaque to. . Right now theres NO evidence to general public and generations to come the track was even there. Could Be a Historical Marker on a pole, with about 150 lbs of cement base ,to insure it stays there.This will need some $ support….from “friends of the Track” Busines-private donors. Will get some figures together.
vbobHEY
LIKE THIS !!!
‘V’ http://explorepahistory.com/hmarker.php?markerId=1-A-307
patinaHow do I get a State Historic Marker?
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Outreach :: State Historic Markers :: How do I Get a New York State Historic Marker?
The New York State Historic Marker Program started in 1926 as a way to commemorate historic sites during the Sesquecentennial of the American Revolution. It was a temporary program and state funding ended around 1939.
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The popularity of the smaller, roadside markers continued, however, and people raised private funds to purchase and erect markers on all sorts of local historic sites. This activity seemed to reach a peak during the Bicentennial years (1976-1983), but local historians and civic groups continue to buy and erect such markers right to this day.
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babycakesQuestion: Is there a ‘date’ factor (50-100 years old) in order to qualify for a State Historical Marker? If a ‘private’ marker is utilized (that the ODF supplies) what legal proceedures are involved to place it on;would it be like purchasing a cemetery plot,where it can never be domained by local government,or any private individual ? Would the towns-people have to approve it also? It’s a ‘great’ idea,however,be prepared,it may turn into,an ‘uphill’ battle to succeed,but still worth it I think.
