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Hey anyone remember this cool 60 Pontiac….I’m wondering of its one of the “swiss cheese” super Duty AFX cars?? Got the main man Charlie Morris checking also….Worth the $$$$ thats one cool bubble top…ran Dover; still has win stickers!!!
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“if it don’t go, Chrome it…”
Chas
Nice ride… đ What a shame it sat in the woods…..He got some big bucks for the shape it’s in đ I remember that car from National Speedway đ
Winning bid: US $30,000.00
Don…said it was stored for 40 years in garage….only outside on blocks for the last month.
Kind of expensive but somebody bid upto 30g’s
Bidder Bid Amount Bid Time
Member Id: i***b( 681) US $30,000.00 Apr-22-11 10:09:46 PDT
Member Id: o***p( 80) US $15,250.00 Apr-21-11 18:46:30 PDT
Member Id: d***d( 40) US $15,000.00 Apr-21-11 18:36:22 PDT
Member Id: o***p( 80) US $15,000.00 Apr-21-11 18:46:12 PDT
Member Id: l***e( 34) US $13,550.00 Apr-21-11 18:39:14 PDT
Member Id: l***e( 34) US $12,550.00 Apr-20-11 18:26:13 PDT
Member Id: j***f( 1983) US $12,500.00 Apr-17-11 22:09:40 PDT
Member Id: -***s( 23) US $10,100.00 Apr-18-11 00:43:50 PDT
Starting Price US $10,000.00
Someone knows what they are getting. I don’t believe its a “Swiss Cheese” car. Believe they cam out in 62/63.
It is a real cool stocker though. Another thing I didn’t think that Pontiac used dual quads on 389s was sure that came in during Swiss Cheese time and 421s like Chevy and dual quad 409s. Just food for thought.
Pat
I love these cars in fact Roxrec is keeping one in storage for me đ
1963 Pontiac Catalina 421 Super Duty âSwiss CheeseâHome â Pontiac â Catalina 421 Super Duty âSwiss Cheeseâ
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As the 1962 drag season drew to a close, it was obvious that Pontiacâs position at the top of the Super Stock hierarchy was weakening. Ford, Chrysler and Chevrolet were gaining on the Chiefs with bigger engines and an ever-increasing supply of special parts, including weight-saving aluminum components and body panels. Pontiac engineers knew they had to have a lighter, more powerful car for 1963, and it came in the form of a special Catalina bearing some serious modifications. First the chassis was altered by cutting the top section away from the boxed rails, leaving a U-shaped section. Then approximately 120 holes were drilled in the sides of the frame rails, removing as much material as possible while maintaining a semblance of structural integrity, resulting in the âSwiss Cheeseâ moniker that remains today.
Further mods involved deleting the front sway bar and substituting an aluminum bellhousing and third member for the original pieces. It did not stop there: insulation and sound deadener was dropped, aluminum body panels were used wherever possible, including the hood, inner and outer front fenders, splash pan, radiator bulkhead, bumpers and brackets. Plexiglas windows were also available to further reduce the carâs 3,308lb shipping weight. Even the cast iron exhaust manifolds were replaced with special high-flow aluminum units with integral cutouts. These proved suitable only for short periods of use given their tendency to melt under prolonged operation.
The 421 engine used in the Swiss Cheese Catalina was treated to 13.0:1 Mickey Thompson pistons, a #10 McKellar camshaft, lightweight valves in reworked heads, heavy duty rotating assembly and a lightweight flywheel. Carburetion was by twin Carter AFBs atop a special aluminum manifold. Rated at 410 horsepower, the engine brought the carâs total weight to 3,308 pounds and propelled it to 12-second times at 120mph. The cars were originally equipped with the Borg Warner 3-speeds with aluminum tail sections and aluminum-case 4.30:1 Positraction differentials; most were converted to close ratio BW 4-speeds and either 4.56 or 4.88 rear gears.
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The 1963 âSwiss Cheeseâ Catalina offered here is perhaps the most famous of the 14 built before GMâs racing ban. Sponsored by Packer Pontiac of Detroit, it was driven in 1963 by Packer employee Howard Maselles, who set the NHRA C/Stock class record with a 12.27 ET at 114.64 MPH, a record that stood for several years. The car was discovered in the late 70s by famed Pontiac collector and historian Randy Williams, and was the first of several historically significant Super Duty Pontiacs that formed his famous collection. After years of collecting a vast treasure trove of Pontiac NOS parts and pieces, Williams and his good friend Scott Tiemann of Supercar Specialties in Portland, MI, began restoring the car, which project was completed by Tiemann and Williams in 2000.
Today the Packer Pontiac âSwiss Cheeseâ Catalina is regarded as the reference point for this rare group of Pontiac lightweight factory racers, a monument to Randy Williamsâ dedication to preserving Pontiac history and to Scott Tiemannâs world class craftsmanship and expertise. It is extensively documented by the records and photographs compiled by Howard Maselles, including the original âFor Saleâ flyer created by Maselles to sell the car at the end of the 1963 season. It was offered at Dana Mecum’s 2010 Original Spring Classic Auction, but did not sell with a high bid of $475,000 USD.
This car was driven by such legendary names as Jim Wangers. It was raced out of Royal Pontiac Dealership in Royal Oak, Michigan. The car was campaigned nationally and was very successful. The biggest victory was at the U.S. Nationals when it won its class, beating out stiff competition.
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type Racing Car
built at USA
production 14
engine Super Duty 90Âș V8
position Front, Longitudinal
aspiration Natural
block material Cast Iron
valvetrain Pushrod OHV
fuel feed Dual Carter Carburettors w/Bathtub Ram Intake
displacement 6899 cc / 421 inÂł
bore 103.9 mm / 4.09 in
stroke 101.6 mm / 4.00 in
compression 12.0:1
power 302.0 kw / 405 bhp @ 5600 rpm
specific output 58.7 bhp per litre
torque 576.2 nm / 425 ft lbs @ 4400 rpm
body / frame Steel Body w/Aluminum Fenders & Hood over Pressed Steel Chassis
driven wheels RWD
wheel type Steel
front tires 8.00×14
rear tires 8.00×14
front wheels F 35.6 x 15.2 cm / 14 x 6 in
rear wheels R 35.6 x 17.8 cm / 14 x 7 in
f suspension Control Arms w/Coil Springs, Hydraulic Shock Absorbers, Anti-Roll Bar
r suspension 4-Link Control Arms w/Coil Springs, Hydraulic Shock Absorbers
wheelbase 3048.0 mm / 120 in
front track 1587.5 mm / 62.5 in
rear track 1625.6 mm / 64 in
length 5382.3 mm / 211.9 in
width 1999.0 mm / 78.7 in
height 1402.1 mm / 55.2 in
transmission T-85 3-Speed Transmission
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Dino thats the problem in my humble world, the gold chains look at everything as an “investment” and “worth” and nothing about how much some poor sap would love to see this pontiac race at the “Dover Nostalgia Drags” and beat the sh##&t out of it just as they did in the 60’s. I don’t believe in ” how much its worth” I can’t drive it. Then they drop dead. I’m using up my cars, I’ll never tell St. Peter “I wish I drove that car before I died”
Pat
Yup!…should have added to “clean it up”…change all the engine fluids- replace the plugs- & Fire It Up…built to race …so run the p*** out of it. . . . probably could use some new tires too. đ New owner should talk to Ron Morehead! 39 years later and he runs within 2 thousands of his old best time .All they did with ‘Dragnasty-vette” was change the oil & plugs and it started right up.